Monday, March 7, 2011

Continuing bantering with the Pagan Ilona(Puffin Lady)

[QUOTE who="PuffinLady"]
Yes I forgot that you follow a Bible that was written and later revised by Mortals. More Fairy Tales and Myths.[/QUOTE]



The Myths are from your Wicca "Book of Shadows" You asked for Historical proof that Jesus had lived:
Ilona you are an Idiot, to still try to dispute what was posted. You do not dispute the arguments, but try to cover it with a stupid, simplistic, remark "I still dispute everything you say".
read it again, maybe it will sink into your rock head:

I notice Ilona(Puffin Lady) has been quiet lately.
She asked me to prove historically , that Jesus ever existed. Hwith is that proof Pagan:

"Is there historical and scientific proof of Jesus?

"Still, to put to rest the notion that there is no historic and scientific proof of Jesus outside the Bible, we may look to Jewish historian Flavius Josephus and to Roman historian Carius Cornelius Tacitus - both well known and accepted."

Josephus, in the book Jewish Antiquities" wrote:

"At that time lived Jesus, a wise man, if he may be called a man; for he performed many wonderful works. He was a teacher of such men as received the truth with pleasure....And when Pilate, at the instigation of the chief men among us, had condemned him to the cross, they who before had conceived an affection for him did not cease to adhere to him. For on the third day he appeared to them alive again, the divine prophets having foretold these and many other wonderful things concerning him. And the sect of the Christians, so called from him, subsists at this time" (Antiquities, Book 18, Chapter 3, Section 1).

Tacitus, in writing about accusations that Nero burned the city of Rome and blamed it on Christians, said the following:

"...Nero procured others to be accused, and inflicted exquisite punishment upon those people, who were in abhorrence for their crimes, and were commonly known by the name of Christians. They had their denomination from Christus (Christ, dm.), who in the reign of Tibertius was put to death as a criminal by the procurator Pontius Pilate...."(Tacitus, Annals, 15, 44).

Ilona,I would hope that you have enough brains left inside your head,to not ever mention that there is no proof that Jesus ever lived, and
these authors are recognized by scholars as historically accurate."
"probe.org" Adds Pliny the younger, Evidence from the Babylonian Talmud A.D. 70-500,Evidence from Lucian:
F. F. Bruce, Jesus and Christian Origins Outside the New Testament (Grand Rapids, Michigan: William B. Eerdmans Publishing Company, 1974), 13. : Tacitus, Annals 15.44, cited in Strobel, The Case for Christ, 82. Edwin Yamauchi, cited in Strobel, The Case for Christ:
Pliny, Epistles x. 96, cited in Bruce, Christian Origins, 25; Habermas, The Historical Jesus, 198. Habermas, The Historical Jesus
(More documentation following)

Let me know when you are willing to become a Catholic!
While on mini vacation I guess you enlisted one of your Pagan fools to try to attack me, and defend your stupidity. There is no way that anyone can help you Ilona. The only one that can is GOD almight, HE AND HIS SON JESUS, AND THE HOLY SPIRIT. I destroyed every one of your arguments. Find a rock you can love, at least you can talk to the rock, and not have to worry that the rock will think you are an imbecile.Preces meae erit tibi, ut bene via ad perditionem. Deus Miserere animae perverse ignorant.

Forgive the name callings that I have used, but this person Ilona, went to the site where I questioned MSGR's motives for attacking the good people of our Parish. the question I had posted is in Elmont.She is from Bellerose, and is a follower of Wicca,
and wanted proof that Jesus and GOD have ever existed. Anyone that does not know of he beliefs of the Wicca sect, please google it, you will probably go blind half way through, or upchuck, at anyone still in this day and age, believing such studpidity,
and worshiping Idols, and phantasy beings, ala Greek, Roman, Egyptian,Gods...etc

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